Yerachmiel Konikov earns his O”H

# 1 shitalphin Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:43 am

i didn’t know him and nobody is responding. his brother, a shliach in Southampton, has decided to just make a graveside service. i am reminded of something i heard father bruce ritter, founder of covenant house, say “poverty is the inability to elicit pity.” may yerachmiel find what he couldn’t in this world.

# 2 Shach X Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:47 am

No one is responding because we cant take it anymore. People are dropping like flies!

# 3 Williamsburg neighbor Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 10:49 am

I knew Yerachmiel from Chabad @N.5th. He came to seek a community, and was always invited to deliver divrei Torah (which he did frequently). His loss is untimely, and he will be missed.

# 4 seth braunstein Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:03 am

I’m not familiar with graveside services. Is it strictly an economic consideration ?

# 5 hsd Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:09 am

suicide is killing more of us than the swine flu.

# 6 hsd Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 11:12 am

I hope when it is my time to go, I can do it on video to entertain everyone.

# 7 Illuy oztum Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 2:16 pm

IY”H BY YOU

# 8 hsd Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 2:19 pm

# 9 native Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:06 pm

hsd,
I’d really like that clip let me know when your ready to film it.
Thanks in advance

# 10 shitalphin Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 3:32 pm

ok, gallows humor very cute but did nobody know this guy. shall his grave be the tomb of the unknown chabadsker? from google i see there’s a rabbi zvi K. of satellite beach, FL that delivered a eulogy after the columbia space shuttle disaster. was he there today? there’s a mendel konikov (menachem mendy) surprise, surprise, on twitter. There’s a rabbi joseph K. from orlando that is appealing something about running a shul illegally, surprise, surprise. there’s a rabbi rafe konikov in southampton LI. so why isn’t there anything about yerachmiel being written?

# 11 Shach X Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Because no one gives a f@@@.

He is a casualty of war that will be swept under the carpet with the rest of the suicides.

# 12 a bystander Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:11 pm

Gallows humor aside, we knew each other from the Chabad of Williamsburg. He would come sometimes and so would I. Sometimes our paths intersected. He was a wonderful soul. I can’t even write about it, because how can something like this be transmitted in words? As “Williamsburg neighbor” said above, he would sometimes be asked to deliver Divrei Torah, and what came out of his mouth was like pearls. Always authentic and true to Judaism, but heartfelt, processed. It felt like his observations were coming from within, were tested in the fires of his inner being, and then brought to us as words. It appeared that he thought deeply, powerfully, and sometimes painfully. He was shy and we didn’t get to know each other as well as I would’ve liked, but I am convinced that he was a “special soul” and what more can be said?

# 13 shitalphin Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:23 pm

thank you.

# 14 seth braunstein Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:43 pm

am hoping to revisit Chulent this wk to commiserate and reminisce with the “chabura” as you already realize I had a unique “kesher” with him for a while but absolutely did not see this coming at all as he would pop in and out of local haunts which my brain interpreted as he’s being yerachmiel. and so it goes…

# 15 shitalphin Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:49 pm

now there is some stuff on the internet about a family court case between yerachmiel and one, chana eidel ungar. all i could tell was that yerachmiel received a court appointed attorney. strangely i found this Chana Eidel Ungar - New York, NY | Facebook . i am not a facebook member and her “opening” page is blank.

# 16 seth braunstein Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 6:55 pm

he was a man of mystery. this much I know. thurs nite does not bode to be a boring session

# 17 a friend Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:22 pm

sad, sad story. i spoke to him at great length a few times at muskoviches ir miklot. another typical death… you should rename this website “the chapel for young hebrews”. but indeed how sad…

# 18 a friend Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:27 pm

let us remember that his brother and cousins are big fancy shluchim who never helped him.

# 19 seth braunstein Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:29 pm

methinks, if we focus on how we can be nicer to one another and check in with one another instead of querying if 1) was it bloody ? and 2) what was the method deployed we have a chance. though we’re all geniuses post fact.

# 20 not again Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:36 pm

was he the guy who used to give divrei torah at moshe gold’s father’s too?
drove simple chevrolet cutlass or something. was very genuine, soft-spoken and well spoken as well. this is confounding

# 21 seth braunstein Says:
May 31st, 2009 at 7:38 pm

bingo

# 22 Avraham Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 8:02 am

There will be a Minyan every night this week at Chabad at North 5th street
at 8:15. We will be davening Mincha, and shortly thereafter Mariv. We will be sitting a Shiva of sorts and reflecting on Yerachmil’s contributions to our Chabad house.

I have to say that in all of my travels I would be hard pressed to find someone who left me feeling as intellectually inferior as Yerachmil. His comprehension of Torah was staggering.While I had to subordinate myself to him in our discussions relative to Yideshkiet. I found a rare kindred soul in our discussions about classical art, the antiquities, and secular classical philosophy. He was someone that I will always regret not getting closer to.

# 23 divorced Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm

who told u it was suicide??

# 24 Shach X Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 1:11 pm

And what type of suicide?

# 25 Kovi Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 1:17 pm

“And what type of suicide?”

The successful type. what a dumb question.

# 26 Williamsburg neighbor Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pm

If only each one of us here had spoken to him for even 60 seconds each time we met him…. Alas, now it is too late.

We live in a 2-D world where our interactions are framed by a plastic frame surrounding a glowing light. We look not at each other, but at each other’s words. It is a form of isolation familiar to prisoners. Suicide? Or what is murder by the hands of the internet, facilitated by the weapon of depression. He was clearly depressed. This was apparent to anyone with eyes. We are not equipped, (n)or willing to address it. This, too, is unfortunate.

# 27 divorced Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Williamsburg neighbor, did you used to hang out with him?

# 28 shitalphin Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:30 pm

i’m hoping others will supply details. Hirshel Tzig, you chabad sycophant, don’t tell me you don’t know the mishpoche and what they’re whispering about in C.H. what was it a heart attack or paranoid schizophrenia or the police throwing him off a bridge. what’s the dehumanization du jour? shvaygt? ven s’tut vey shrayt men.

# 29 Yesod ben Yakov Leib Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 6:46 pm

“them that die are the lucky ones” (my friend ed ,dying 82 yearold rubber tramp).my own brothers die,the family says not a word,and i do not ask,,why the fuck would i need to ask i knew he took pills,,probaly that night he took too many,that was aaron,,a week before mosh jumped,my other brother samuel od,to much booze and oxis’,once they die,how they died is like pissin in the wind,might feel good,but you will get soaked and smell like urine.the important thing is that god would comfort those near to him,he left,and that those same ones will not be burdened with guilt,of what they might have done,may he rest in peace,,,the older we get the more that die,as much as part of living is dying,,as always,,,,,,,love,,,,,,,yesod

# 30 berel Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 9:06 pm

how is it that people like yerachmiel are not venerated in life?
i know for me personally since i’ve been desperately trying to extract myself from obsessive religious thinking, whenever i would stop by chabad north 5th and hear him talk it was cringe inducing; to want to so listen to what he said because of the sweetness combined with articulateness that he presented his ideas with yet not wanting to listen to the message imparted. so religious, nationalistic and backward. yet his ideas and connection to the torah obviously in erich fromm’s words kept him away from moral isolation. connected to primal ties of community. yet his clearly “special soul’ had such potential for indiviual self-actualization. ok.
the death this year has been a little exasperating. yes selfish blah blah blah but how much would we give to have one more conversation with johnny, lionel, kitchen(?) yerachmiel. personally i’ve never dealt with death of people that i’ve had such close personal interactions and life going on seems not to allow for real understanding of how this impacts on a semi-rational let alone cosmic level. what to believe? sifsosuv dovevos from the grave.
who knows?

# 31 HirshelTzig Says:
June 1st, 2009 at 11:00 pm

S-Alphin

I live in Monsey, not CH. I had no idea till 2 minutes ago, when a friend asked me if I knew him. I scroll down and see an attack on me too. How nice.

I still don’t know which Konikov this is. Did his mother pass away a few years ago? Was his father a chazzan in New Jersey?

I wish you’d sometimes cut a guy some slack. You sound just like the people you bash all the time.

# 32 ZoroIslamoYId Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:24 am

Hirsh — I think the Konikov who is/was a chazen in Maplewood (in Sholom Ber Gordon’s shul), is Yerachmiel’s uncle. Yerachmiel, who I remember from 770, is Rafe’s older brother & from Mass. (Wooster?). Chaim Tzvi in Orlando & the others (a brother who was involved with the Boy Scouts in Arizona I think & even was at Rainbow Arizona in the late ’90s) are his cousins.

I Think the derhoybener zeyde Chaim Tzvi was running Chabad in Wooster in the 1940s. That is where Yitzchok Dovid Groner O”H (from Down Under), who was the principal of the school there then, met CT’s daughter, Devorah, who was the secretary — &, as they say, the rest is history. (There’s a whimsical story of how they became engaged, having to do with the RaYaTz…)

So Yerachmiel is a cousin-nephew of the Groners of Australia.

Yerachmiel was always the quiet type. I maybe said one or two words to him back in the day (he was fort “an eltere bokhur”). He came across as a bit in his own universe & shy — which in certain circles would be seen as a virtue, but in show-off-y Beis Chayeynu was seen as “modneh” to say the least.

BTW, there’s some great recordings of the zeyde from the 1940s that he made by the urging of the RaYaTz, including a short sermon to yidden in America “tzu hitn dem Shabes” (this was before anyone even knew of the Munkatchers recording from a few years before), & a song about the birds in the forest chirping shvochim tzum riboynoy-shel-oylem (”Pa’am boya’ar holachti…”).

# 33 shitalphin Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 am

it’s spelled worcester and pronounced wooster.

hirshel, you live in monsey (rise of inflection), lo yodati, that explains and excuses everything.

i’d love if somebody would profile “the bochur who doesn’t become a shaliach”. by the litvisher you have your learning and non-learning bochurim. of course the non-learner always has a chip on his shoulder but he is part of a sizable, recognized and accepted faction even preferred by some girls and families. by andere chasidim kimat everybody gayt tsim arbit. but in lubavitch if your life isn’t devoted to poisoning minds, what happens?

# 34 zoroastroyid Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 am

der kri iz der ksiv vi feter orlovsky, vd”l (especially after a douse of woos-chester sauce)

# 35 shitalphin Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 am

orlovsky was just around to suck ginsberg’s cock.

# 36 shitalphin Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 am

i sit here waiting from some type of insight into yerachmiel’s death and then i realize chabad and CH didn’t know him. his own family didn’t know him. people from N.5th knew him a little. now he’s dead and buried and there’ll be 1,000 chabadsker babies born today to take his place so all in all not a great loss. chabad wins. maybe yerachmiel wins. just another win-win situation.

# 37 divorced Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 am

i doubt he committed suicide. I was probably natural causes

# 38 ZIY Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Shit — it’s called “survival of the frumest” — halevay even that.

# 39 Seth Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Alphin,
Why are you giving any credence to the Tzig, who is a johnny-come-lately to Lubavitch?The guy is a Ungarishe naar from B.P who hooked up with Chabad because of in his own words “the niggunim and the rebbeim”.Needless to say he did not know any of “the rebbeim” including the last one, because he just joined the cult a couple of years ago, as for the “niggunim”:Pretty shallow reason to join a cult, especially for this type of music.
You have real old timer ex Lubabs like Shmulik and Avremel, who have forgotten more about Lubavitch than this dufus ever knew, they can give you a much better picture of the status of Lubab.

# 40 shitalphin Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm

at the risk of being obvious because he’s in it now and they’re not.

# 41 Seth Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm

Alphin,
Unlike other Lubavitch websites that candidly air the serious problems in Lubavitch, this goat keeps all critiscm under covers.He works for their p.r department.His insignificant other is busy poisoning impressionable minds with sick Lubab b.s.Do you think this yuckel will allow and info to slip through?
This johhny-come-lately is holier than blue blooded Lubab, typical of The Stokholm syndrome.
Actually he is probably happy that Lubavitchers who leave do this to themselves, just like any other cult besmirch those who leave

# 42 shitalphin Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

normally, i would’ve refrained from posting anything else to give this post a chance to develop but i felt we hit that black wall of silence.

not with a bang but a whimper

or

kol dmomo dakoh

# 43 Anonymous Coward Says:
June 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm

Yehi zichro baruch.

# 44 shitalphin Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 11:53 am

some will say i’m besmirching his good name. others will say i speak ill of the dead. i just think it’s even more tragic than i thought if what i’ve been told is true and that it played a role in his suicide. i had kinda guessed it. it’s all god’s fault.

i don’t know what har sinai everybody else was at but on shavuos i went to a garbage heap where a 70 year old 5′5″ yidl was standing with no waist, his pants held up by his belly, his shirt had pit stains, he was clean shaven with one of those grey nylon/polyester rain hats that kinda look like they’re made out of straw and i asked him where’s your toyre and he said “s’geyt mir on a sakh? ti vos du vilst.”

# 45 a friend Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm

yes, his homosexuality definitely played a role in his suicide

# 46 HirshelTzig Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm

Seth
Whatever makes you high - I mean happy, man.
pleasant dreams.

# 47 a friend Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm

shitalphin said

i didn’t know him and nobody is responding. his brother, a shliach in Southampton, has decided to just make a graveside service. i am reminded of something i heard father bruce ritter, founder of covenant house, say “poverty is the inability to elicit pity.” may yerachmiel find what he couldn’t in this world.

# 48 shitalphin Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

look,
anti-gay sentiment is not limited to any one frum group. it’s black and white. hopefully, god didn’t write the torah and if he/she did he/she’s a shit. maybe being gay isn’t normal. who’s normal? it’s a victimless “crime” and should be nobody’s business. i hope yerachmiel is setting god “straight” at this very moment. zol er zayn a giter beter far unz alle.

# 49 LEAH KLEIM Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm

Cant we all just kick the bucket in piece?

# 50 Seth Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm

“Seth
Whatever makes you high - I mean happy, man.
pleasant dreams.”

Hey, I can’t get over the “depth” of your response!

Now, what do you have to say about the unfortunate Lubab souls that after making the “great escape” from the Lubab craziness are left without any support or tools to handle life?
Why is it that dumb dufuses like yourself enjoy their stupidity,live to fress more kigel,drink more vodka, belch and fortz , leaving a stinking trail of emptiness and stupidity and why is it that good people, thinking people, have to go through the torture of life and end it so tragically, when they have so much to give to humanity and so much to live for?!!
Rosho vetoiv loh, tzadik verah loh

# 51 divorced Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm

how do you know he was a gay?

# 52 zoroastroyid Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm

quoting father ritter is just plain sick. i suppose he is very rich, since he elicited pity for all the teenage boys he screwed up the ass. satmer would be proud of him.

anyways, a short bio-facebook page etc. for yerachmiel would be a mazkeres netzach.

seem like our list of “asoroh harugey malchus” is expanding beyond a mere minyan, bibchinas biroyv am vd”l.

# 53 shitalphin Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm

you don’t know shit about father ritter so just shut the fuck up. he was dealing with street kids who were addicts, pimps, prostitutes, thieves and scam artists not innocent young buchrimlach. maybe what he did was wrong but it was far from simple. this was a man who was leading the very comfortable life of an academic who gave up everything when challenged by a student to truly lead a life in christ.

i think a facebook page would be a fitting memorial, maybe too nice a memorial, maybe there’s a clip of him doing something funny that we could put on youtube, if not, maybe just a twitter account in his name even though he won’t be updating much.

# 54 Seth Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm

Zora,
How did Satmar get mixed in here?
Seems that folks who leave Satmar are better able to handle life and its torture.Lubab are brainwashed from a young age about ‘hiskashres” to deceased who “are not actually deceased” and all kinds of other tooth fairies and babbeh mayses that once the somehow get out that mess, they get hit with tons of “reality” that no cute story about the Alter Rebbe holding up a boat to say kiddush levoneh can whitewash.
Lubavitch is a very dangerous cult!

# 55 zoroastroyid Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm

i suppose screwing underage tranny whores is the way “to truly lead a life in [dayke] christ.” gevald! how could i have been so blind???

did we clarify if the case with chana eidel ungar is with the same yerachmiel? & how does that fit with the gay thing?

# 56 shitalphin Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm

those are things to clarify for the mazkeres netzach on facebook.

# 57 dc Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm

crownheights.info put up a post in his honor
http://www.crownheights.info/index.php?itemid=18833

# 58 seth braunstein Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm

how can we get Chana Eidel Ungar to frequent cholent tom. nite ?

# 59 dc2 Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 pm

from the above comment
“Suicide” - A Unique Letter from The Rebbe
Author: Webby
Category: Something Jewish
Published: June 03 2009

Do all Jews go straight to Heaven? Is there a life in the next world for one who takes his own life? CrownHeights.info and the Avner Institute presents a unique letter of the Rebbe, discussing the tragic consequence of suicide in the World to come; and stressing the importance of a Jew’s responsibility in this world. To learn more about the Rebbe Visit: portraitofaleader.org

By the Grace of G-d
10th of Nissan, 5721
Brooklyn, NY

Greeting and Blessing:

I received your letter, in which you write about your efforts to implement my suggestion in connection with Purim.

I trust that you have also been active in the matter of distribution of Shemura Matza before Pesach, together with our friend Mr. Fisher.

With regard to the question of Gehinom and how it affects sinners in general, and suicides in particular, you can well imagine that this is a subject about which I do not encourage discussion, especially in the case of a young man whose whole life is ahead of him and who has to utilize the years which G-d bestows upon him, and utilize them with energy and joy and complete trust in G-d.

Thus, this and similar morbid topics are not conducive to the proper attitude and activity which should fill one’s life. However, in order not to leave your question altogether unanswered, let me say briefly this. Besides the fact that one who takes his own life has no share in the world to come, and this is a result which few transgressions bring about, there is the added consideration that there is no escape from G-d, and, as it is written (Psalm 139:8): Im osek shomayim sham atah ve’etziah shaul hincha (If I ascend up into heaven You are there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.)

Therefore, one who takes his own life in the hope of avoiding suffering actually adds to his woes in that in addition having to go through all the things which he had hoped to escape, he has to suffer also the consequence of having tried to escape his duties and obligations, etc. However, the main point is, as mentioned above, this is not a topic to be delved in, but one should be totally immersed in Torah, which is called Toras Chaim, the Law of Life, and the Mitzvoth whereby Jews live, and to do one’s utmost to spread the light and life of the Torah and Mitzvoth in the environment at large.

Hoping to hear good news from you, and wishing you a Kosher and happy Pesach.

With blessing,
(signature)

# 60 shitalphin Says:
June 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm

dc2,
truly inspiring and insightful words from the rebbe.

seth,
chana eidel will be the one in the red dress.

# 61 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 12:09 am

i just wanted to post the face of this rosho, sodomite, so in case you see another like him you will be able to tell and stay far away from him. in case you have the temerity to spit on such a person ashrecho v’tov loch - ashrecho b’oylem hazeh v’tov loch l’oylem habo.

# 62 dc2 Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 1:26 am

by the way, the gay stuff is untrue and he was involved with a woman at the time of his suicide

# 63 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 4:50 am

dc2,
we know gay men who are involved with women it’s a good recipe for suicide. would this woman be the mysterious mata hari chana eidel ungar?
don’t play games if you knew him and his circumstances let us know. this is not a game of Clue.

# 64 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 5:13 am

Due to the incredible increase in Chabad suicides we have joined with Perillo Tours to create “Chabad at Masada”

Chabad Lubavitch of the Hamptons and Chabad Lubavitch of Watermill’s Israel Tour with
Rabbi Leibel Baumgarten and Rabbi Levi Baumgarten
February 15 - 24, 2010
SUNDAY, 15 February - Israel Pilgrims
Depart on overnight flight to Israel
MONDAY, 16 February - When You Come Into the Land (Deut. 26:1)
Morning arrival at Ben Gurion Airport to be met and assisted by your ITC Israel guide. Depart for the Dead Sea Region Hotel check-in to spend this afternoon luxuriating at the hotel’s spa and pool and the amazing Dead Sea (optional excursion to separate beaches) Dinner at the hotel

Overnight: Isrotel, Dead Sea
TUESDAY, 17 February - Freedom Fighters or Fanatics?
Spend some more time this morning at the hotel spa Optional morning excursion: Enjoy a walk through the beautiful Ein Gedi Nature Reserve and review the biblical story of kings David and Saul that took place there “on site”. Afternoon: Ascend Masada by cable car. Tour this amazing excavation and discuss the terrible dilemma faced by its Jewish population during Roman times. Then we will all recreate this Kiddush HaShem. Survival not optional.

# 65 pickle Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:21 am

i knew him a kind gentle soul really a horrible story
WHY DONT ALL YOU SLEAZY MOTHERFUCKER JEWS
PERHAPS PAY ATTENTION TO A LIVE SOUL
AND NOT TURN THIS MN’S TRAGEDY INTO A OPPORTUNITY
FOR MORE PREDICABLE DELUSIONAL NAUSEATING ASSHOLE
MARTYR COMPLEX SELF RIGHTEOUS 7FAT COW “CLASSIC POSTS”

# 66 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:26 am

but we might hit 100 comments.

# 67 dc2 Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 9:31 am

“but we might hit 100 comments.”

iz vus?

# 68 divorced Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 10:19 am

post his suicide note, or it never happened.

# 69 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 10:58 am

you’re right. moshe kanovsky and gershy gorodetsky slipped, zahler was pushed. no yidn commit suicide.

# 70 dc2 Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am

yeshiva world news and others always refer to suicides as “tragic accidents”.

# 71 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 11:44 am

divorced,
according to your criteria leah kleim has committed suicide 23 times.

# 72 divorced Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 12:17 pm

i have source that confirms he passed after a long battle with an ilness. Claiming suicide belittles his battle.

# 73 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

i’m all for the truth. it just strikes me as strange that there would be no mention of this illness unless it’s one nobody wants to admit to. can we be adults? was it AIDS?

# 74 divorced Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 12:42 pm

maybe swine flu?

# 75 shitalphin Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

suicide is so hard to determine. take the case of actor david carradine:

Police in Bangkok are treating the death as a suicide, The Associated Press reported, though Mr. Carradine’s manager of six years, Chuck Binder, said he didn’t believe this was the case.

“He was working, he had a family, he was happy,” Mr. Binder said in an interview Thursday. “He just bought a new car.”

“I can confirm that we found his body, naked, hanging in the closet,” Teerapop Luanseng, a police officer investigating the death, told The A.P.

you decide.

# 76 hsd Says:
June 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm

to comment #75

if David Carradine was not a suicide, then it was a case of auto-erotic asphyxiation ….

perhaps a suicide would have been less embarrassing then dying whilst masturbating.

# 77 Seth Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 3:12 am

Now that I see the pic I remember the guy, but cannot place him.Anybody out there who can tell us where he hung around?I remember him from seeing him in and around Flatbush, but can’t pin down where

# 78 Seth Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 3:15 am

Yes, I read that he hung around Chabad in North Willy and by Burech Moskowitz, but that must be more recent.
I remember that he looked pretty Orthodox with a beard but not typical enough of a Chabad look to be taken as a Chabadnik at first sight

# 79 Seth Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 3:18 pm

From media reports in seems that Carradine was NOT suicide

# 80 shmendrick Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 4:29 pm

you believe the media?

# 81 shitalphin Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

l’mayse this was about yerachmiel and i still don’t know what happened. what is clear is that any of his problems were perfectly human and no reason for the family or anybody else to be ashamed of.

# 82 Seth Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm

Yeah,I do.After I try and ascertain the facts.There was no real reason for the media to take any side.This is not the “Lubab media”., trying their Communist tricks of rewriting history.Most of the time.But, yeah I am not naive (or too naive)to believe everything they say.Like Obama is the new Messiah.Don’t believe that.
Don’t believe his wife is pretty either
But who knows after Obama has bought the next election by taxing the rich who make up less than 10%to give to the “poor” and others that make up 90% we may see Michelle as Prez in 2016.That would probably be a good reason for suicide

# 83 nisht dere Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pm

Of course there is a reason for the media to take a side,what ” “lubab media” “are you talking about?

And who the fuck does think Obama as messiah?

Well regarding that, you have pretty bad taste.

And who the fuck is thinking about, what is going to happen in 8 years?

# 84 Seth Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

Anybody reading the “media” is under the impression that Obama is the Messiah.He is the new Rebbe.I don’t think he is the Messiah.I’m actually sick and tired of them turning a guy who can read a teleprompter into the new Rebbe.
And why do you think the media cares how Carradine kicked the bucket?

# 85 nisht dere Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

1.This is all in your head, that their under this impression.

2. If they are, well that is their problem, let them believe whatever the hell they want to.

Of course they don’t care about Carradine went, what they care about is pushing their agenda and tell you how someone went, is part of it.

# 86 Shach X Says:
June 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am

Lets see if in three years, when the economy is worse if they still think Obama is the Messiah?

# 87 Gedalia J Says:
June 10th, 2009 at 9:09 pm

I was Yerachmiel’s Chaver and Confidante for almost the last 5 years. He was , a Tzadik, a great guy, and above all a Tayere Mentch. Baruch Dayan Haemes. His e-mail, Teachmetorah, said it all. He will truly be missed!!

# 88 shitalphin Says:
June 11th, 2009 at 8:32 am

glad to hear he had a close friend.

# 89 The Gallop of Yerachmiel Konikov — Ben Atlas Says:
June 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am

[…] every day. And when the holidays come, they swipe the sorrow with the fallen angels. His friend wrote: “I have to say that in all of my travels I would be hard pressed to find someone who left me […]

# 90 Gedalia J Says:
June 28th, 2009 at 6:25 am

Tonight (Sunday, June 28th), is the Shloshim observance for Yerachmiel, A”H. It will be held at Chabad of North Brooklyn 132 North 5th St (Corner Bedford Ave.). It is called for 9 PM.

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